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Post by Starscreams Ghost on May 24, 2008 8:59:46 GMT
now I joined ebay before the .uk site existed so all my messages come from ebay US this came in my messages a couple of days ago and becuase it's aimed at the americans I don't usually bother to pay much attention then I saw this part London calling! Reach a hot market
Get your listing seen in the UK for a fraction of the UK listing fee. Starting May 6th, if you're a US & Canadian seller you can upgrade listings to show up in search results on eBay.co.uk--without having to list there separately. With today's weak dollar, global customers are looking for deals and many sellers report surging purchases from overseas. To take advantage of this opportunity, add worldwide shipping and sign up to appear in UK searches--just choose the International Site Visibility listing upgrade.so that's right US sellers can now flood ebay.co.uk undercutting sellers and having to pay less fees than a UK thanks a £$%ing bunch I'm half tempted to fire off an e-mail to ebay claiming racial discrimination for charging me more based on my country of origin......if not for the fact I pay all my fees in dollars  this has got to annoy the uk registered users and businesses Thats it............ after the Universe/Classics 2.0 I'm done I'm closing the doors because it's just too damn hard to try and run an independant business in this country anymore |
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Post by Sunstreaker on May 24, 2008 10:01:55 GMT
[glow=red,2,000] Feeling for ya buddy.
I found the same sort of thing with RPG sales - except with the gaming industry it's not e-bay it's feckless geeks with scanners...
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Post by Devil Soundwave on May 24, 2008 11:53:31 GMT
I think this could well actually be illegal. I think we should talk to a lawyer. Anyone know one?
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Post by Starscreams Ghost on May 24, 2008 12:17:41 GMT
more to the point does anyone know one that would be willing to take on ebay?
reading it more they do have to pay more on top of their listing to get onto the uk searches but to do so at less than we pay I think is bang out of order
it is indeed the final straw that broke this camels back
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Post by Swoop on May 24, 2008 13:50:45 GMT
Oh, ebay is awash with shady practices. The fact that they are trying to force everyone to use an online payment system that they so conveniently own and that Paypal tries to be a bank (right down to having their own credit card) but are based in Luxembourg to get round UK and EU banking laws are just two examples.
God knows why no one has started up a rival site. Forget ebid and the others, they're too small. You're going to need a company like Google or Microsoft that has real muscle and some recognition with the general public, if only to give ebay some competition. They're too complacent and think any sort of dodgy behaviour is OK because there's no alternative.
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Post by Minion on May 24, 2008 17:03:43 GMT
I'd love to see a good rival site. I really don't like ebay, and I resent it when I feel they are my only option to buy particular items. This is just another reason to hate them even more.
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Post by Hellhound on May 24, 2008 18:58:37 GMT
Oh, ebay is awash with shady practices. The fact that they are trying to force everyone to use an online payment system that they so conveniently own and that Paypal tries to be a bank (right down to having their own credit card) but are based in Luxembourg to get round UK and EU banking laws are just two examples. God knows why no one has started up a rival site. Forget ebid and the others, they're too small. You're going to need a company like Google or Microsoft that has real muscle and some recognition with the general public, if only to give ebay some competition. They're too complacent and think any sort of dodgy behaviour is OK because there's no alternative. I generally agree with everyone's thoughts on Ebay, buy i'm going to nipick here... I'm no expert (by any stretch of the imagination) on international banking law. However, as Luxembourg is a memeber state of the EU, how does Paypal being based their allow it to circumvent EU banking law? While Luxembourg may well have different banking laws to the UK, EU laws of this type, I assume, apply in all member states. If Paypal are based in Luxembourg to take adavantage of legal loop-holes, this makes them no different to many companies (Play.com spring to mind) who choose their location very, very carefully. |
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Post by sonny on May 25, 2008 15:58:02 GMT
Not only that but people on there are getting more retarded and incompetent as we speak.
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Post by Rev. Mirage on May 25, 2008 16:18:21 GMT
Swoop, what about QXL or yahoo auctions...
They were both contemporaries and YAHOO at the time was the #1 search engine...
The fact that both have now been magginalised has been because of Ebay's sucess.
Hellhound, they get round EU and UK banking laws by not actually being a bank. They may look like a bank and act like a bank but because they arn't one. They base in luxemboug because their laws give them sufficent leeway. EU laws do not actually apply equally to all member states. The Eu parliment drafts them then the serperate soverign nations are supposed to enact them into their national laws. Exactly when and how long that process can take. And exactly how the laws are interpreted can differ between member states.
One of the complaints about the UK gov't approach is that they tend to gold plate EU laws by enacting the strictest interpretation. Whereas other member states go for more lax interpretations.
Going back to the original comment however. Was it not true that until recently all UK auctions were automatically listed in the US site? And there was uproar when ebay removed this (saying it was a legacy of their systems and not actually a feature). Surely this is just the first stage of making it a feature and available to all (but due to the strong pound and weak dollar it's currently more of use to them than us)?
It's not that they are getting anything specific, after all once you factor in shipping (and US shipping is expensive in my experience) and taxes, customs etc etc. Not only that but it's an additional charge on top of their existing listing fee.
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Post by Xbot on May 25, 2008 17:19:24 GMT
evilbay that's what I call it
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Post by Starscreams Ghost on May 25, 2008 18:04:23 GMT
. Not only that but it's an additional charge on top of their existing listing fee. we have to pay that too to get listed on ebay.com unless we select international shipping and you're right their postage has gone up, however.... I can still buy something from the states with shipping and pay less than retail over here and sometimes very close to my trade prices If I had someone reliable in the states who I could provide regular wants lists too then I'd be sorted and I'd continue I just think ebay is deliberately pushing out the uk sellers in this matter I remember when ebay.co.uk started and they would give me free listings to use it just to get people on it (not saying I'm more important than I already know I am  ) they wanted us at first to push their business and now they're big enough and global enough entity they dont give a rat's arse about who got them there anyway like I said I'm done I can do without the added stress so my business is on hiatus maybe I'll try again in a few years but for now I'm out and I'm listing all my stock on the same site I'm complaining about because as much as I hate it .... it's really the only way and that's why it sucks so hard |
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Post by Minion on May 25, 2008 21:13:36 GMT
Don't list it until i've had a rummage |
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Post by Devil Soundwave on May 25, 2008 21:46:23 GMT
Not only that but people on there are getting more retarded and incompetent as we speak. What?! Jesus Sonny, don't you ever think that referring to people as "retarded" is just a touch offensive?! |
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Post by Hellhound on May 25, 2008 21:55:43 GMT
Hellhound, they get round EU and UK banking laws by not actually being a bank. They may look like a bank and act like a bank but because they arn't one. They base in luxemboug because their laws give them sufficent leeway. EU laws do not actually apply equally to all member states. The Eu parliment drafts them then the serperate soverign nations are supposed to enact them into their national laws. Exactly when and how long that process can take. And exactly how the laws are interpreted can differ between member states. One of the complaints about the UK gov't approach is that they tend to gold plate EU laws by enacting the strictest interpretation. Whereas other member states go for more lax interpretations. Thanks for clearing that up! |
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Post by sonny on May 26, 2008 0:23:31 GMT
Not only that but people on there are getting more retarded and incompetent as we speak. What?! Jesus Sonny, don't you ever think that referring to people as "retarded" is just a touch offensive?! No...why would you care when they are total strangers to you anyway? Besides its more than justified when they have acted like retards/morons/imbeciles/dicks/incompetent half wits. The fact is though people on there are idiots at times. Its an ever growing problem too ive noticed. Im going through a paypal dispute with one of these morons right now because he doesnt understand the basic rules of shipping stuff out in a timely and satisfactory manner. |
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) they wanted us at first to push their business and now they're big enough and global enough entity they dont give a rat's arse about who got them there