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Post by Steelimus Prime on Mar 14, 2005 18:21:54 GMT
Ok this if for you GMs... mainly DB and Minionion
Could you help me out in creating a sort of RPG time line so I can get some continuity down. We can include some of your fanfics as well Ad.
I just basicaly want too know when your RPGs take place in terms of the shows as refrence (although I still prefer the comic continuity but that harder to judge time wise.) and I'll work on incorperating them into a big time line.
The first EVER Rpg moment from a time point of view would be the first act of Hunt 2 as far as I am aware. Then Unsung Heroes, City of the damned, Villains... then about 10 years and Heroes 1 starts.
So I I am guess that Hunt 1 was suposed to take place in say 2004.. Decaying Orbit maybe 6 months before TF the Movie. DO2 maybe 4 months before TFTM
The beast wars one are harder too place... what sort of time scale were they? was Darkening sky before BW started? Beat Evo was after BM...
So if you guys could help me narrow it down I'll try set the Timeline and add events in the way I think they would have happend.
You're contrabutions and opinions would help but it might be easier too wait for the first draft before you disagree with something or think of something you want added.
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Post by Divebomb on Mar 14, 2005 18:35:27 GMT
You're pretty much spot on.
Decaying Orbit (& DOII which followed immediately after) were set a few months before the Movie. So between seasons 2 and 3 of the cartoon.
Darkening Sky takes place around the time of the Beast Wars, as Tripredicus was working for BW Megatron.
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Post by Minion on Mar 14, 2005 18:53:35 GMT
My BW/post-BM universe ones go:
BW The cartoon/Total TF episodes 1-6 (occurr at same time although ep 1-3 take place in the 'present'
BM the cartoon
Total TF BM episode 1
MCF 1
Beast Evolution (appearance of the neo-matrix and the 'mistake' that is Rodentimus Prime)
Matrix Knights 1
MCF 2
Matrix Knights 2
(as yet MK 3 and Total TF BM episodes 2 and 3 are un-set but likely to be chronologically after MK2. Expect something big for this sub timeline by Total episode 3)
Hunt 1 was indeed abnout 2004 i forget the actual year but near enough. It featured the transport of the CPU for Moonbase 1 which was being built.
The mini Rainstorm fanfics at Total are set before the opening of Hunt2 but dont reflect too much on the timeline as they bear no significance out of Rainy's own life which is a insane timelime much like Siphon's.
Also you best speak to L7 as some of mine intergrate with some of his.
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Post by Steelimus Prime on Mar 14, 2005 18:56:54 GMT
Shall we say a few months before the first BW ep?
Incidentaly in my mind the movie would have been replaced with the final battle with Uni in the comic where they all went too Cybertron too fight him.
Just found the movie and toon a bit limiting. So in my bran Headmasters and so on would have been invented in the 90s at some point
Like I say I'll let you see what my opinion of the universe would be like then you can say what you dont agree with
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Post by Minion on Mar 14, 2005 19:02:10 GMT
Yes by all means go for it. L7 has something similar already so maybe w ecan mesh the two togther.
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Post by Steelimus Prime on Mar 14, 2005 19:08:16 GMT
I kinda figure TTF is too disimilar. Its always been an alternate universe too me. Hence why Steel is slightly difrent and Siphon hasn't stolen the whole darn show.
I would like too try and make a web page or something where I can display Fanfics, tech specs and details of past RPG and whatever... but knowing me I will half do it and then get board and go onto something else.
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Post by Divebomb on Mar 14, 2005 19:12:32 GMT
Well as you know I always try to work my stuff in so it doesn't conflict with anything else.
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Post by Steelimus Prime on Mar 14, 2005 19:18:24 GMT
Yeah and I have a tendancy to drop hints about my personal history in most of my RPGs like the death of Sentinal Prime. You never saw it but I mentioned who was mainly responsoble.
Helps keep momorys fresh and I think it gives a bit more deapth to the whole feel.
Will knock up a draft once I read up on a few comics to get it in my head what I want to combine out of Marvel, DW and whatever
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Post by l7 on Mar 15, 2005 4:41:09 GMT
[glow=blue,2,000]Basicly, the mainTTF RPG ep 1 and beyond, is suppose to happen after the Movie, G2, BW and BM, everything goes back to big robots due to new decepticons threats. I have a big time line right now but its still up in the air as I have a few things to work out and change the beginnings of TTF ep1 since the GM had Latyrx7 as a Maximal at first, ignoring the renegade stuff I had worked on. Basicly, me and Rainy have looked at our RPG alining with each others, I'm assuming correctly right Rainy? And I've haven't used the comic continity since its really tight and doesn't allow the renegades to exsist really, that and I've incorperated the movie in to the origin renegade fanfic. But in recent months I've discussed liberties with TTFs rpg history, sort of what DW has done making referrences back to cartoon eps but ya know, I'd leave out Carnage in C' minor Looking at how L7 and Morpher fits in with what has happened at TTF and here has worked for me, might not work for everyone. So, I don't know. Maybe the moon shouldn't worry about TTF rpg stuff too much or make what ever referrence they want to make to it as an another dimension. I know that Rainstorm spent alot of time there, infact he's suppose to be in the renegade fanfics too but I haven't finished it so that makes it even harder to figure out. But hey, balls in your court, your rpgs and all but we could compair notes. *Gets the coffee ready* [/glow]
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Post by Steelimus Prime on Mar 15, 2005 10:05:45 GMT
I have actualy had a breif look over your time line and there were a few things I didn't agree with which was why I thought we needed one of our own. It was too limited from my personal point of view which is the other end of the time line. Most of my stuff is War Within time, but you have a fair amount of detail that conflicts with my RPGs
Plus I thought we had kinda already established that TTF was the alternate universe that Rainy went too after The Hunt 2.
Plus it woulnd't explain where all the big guns we have established at The Moon have disapeared too at TTF. I dont really like the idea that they just died and thats the end of it, but it dosn't seem likely they would have all just given up and moved away.
You had a whole Ep or two with Rainy at the helm as the main bad dude. Siphon didn't even show up once which seemed unlikely if he existed in that Universe from the begining and wasn't just poping in as an Exile.
Of course I mean no disrespect by all this I just feel its a little too much work to try and combine them into one and make it belivable.
I always prefered it was just a similar type universe with some stuff the same but some diffrent
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Post by Minion on Mar 15, 2005 12:57:21 GMT
*pours a coffee and declies one of Steel's highsugar choccie bics pilfered from GD's personal store cupboard*
I had always seen TF@TM and Total as alternate realities but did try and work with L7 to se eif they could be combined. The results weren't too bad but I do see Steel's point about some confusion.
I still play Rainstorm, 44, Vice and obviously Kommodus as being from elsewhere at Total but have begun the threads tying all my BW abd BM stuff together as it was a fantastic oppurtunity to see characters like Lion7 and such evolve into things like MCF.
Not sure what the solution is here...
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Post by l7 on Mar 15, 2005 15:36:04 GMT
Of course I mean no disrespect by all this I just feel its a little too much work to try and combine them into one and make it belivable. [glow=blue,2,000]None taken ol boy! I'm having the same problems too with in my own! But now that I've sent you the one I've been working, hey who knows. To try and combine the two would be great but at the same time it could be lost on those who don't rp at either board. And it could be as impossible as combining the cartoon and the comic. I think the real connection here is with Rainstorm, if things center around him there might be a chance this can all work out. If not then it can always be put down to his alternate dimension jumping. How many liberites were you thinking of taking Steel? Like if you fanficed your rpgs would you take out anything you didn't like or didn't make sence? Depending on how one felt or how a change could make it better could also help. Thing is too like you said, what happened to other ppl's characters? I know where Rainy and Siphion are and have gone, there timeline crossing jumps explain them, what about say Fencebreaker, Baywatch and Swinger? [/glow]
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Post by Steelimus Prime on Mar 15, 2005 15:56:03 GMT
I'm not really planning on changing much when I turn my RPGs into fan fics. I'll try and gell the story together better and throw in more easter eggs for those in the know.
I dont plan on any big changes or dropping characters (apart from Hot Rod from Heroes as that didn't work at all)
I think Hunt 2 is the pivital point where Siphon, Rainy, Vice shifted realitys with Kommodus following along later.
I'm not sure how too explain Morpher though.. unless he snuck into one of Rainstorms old bases and was shifted over too TTF though his Dimention device thingy.
I'll write down my ideas and shuffle them about too see if I can come up with something that makes sence
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Post by l7 on Mar 15, 2005 16:04:27 GMT
[glow=blue,2,000]Morpher jumped here and there, then had his memory damaged and can't remember certain things, he's more like Jason Bourne then 007 now So until things get worked out he just doesn't remember, especialy if he was a simple robot before Rainy found him or a started from scratch experiment Rainy began on.[/glow]
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Post by Steelimus Prime on Mar 15, 2005 16:27:28 GMT
Perhaps he is the only one who thinks the universes are the same He has combined the two in his head
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