Help jason decide about uni .. more truthful

[peeman]

Ok i asked this a while back but i'm still unsure and didn't want to dig up an old thread, but i'm still really unsure and i felt i wasn't quote honest with the last thread i just left it as a general uni good or bad thread without putting in how i felt so i wondered if you'd all be able to help me again

Firstly my thoughts about uni , to be honest i really don't want to go . but its important to not consider costs here as my dad has sold his business (cos hes to old now) and so has told me he'd pay for all my uni fees. Basically as i reallised in my recent A level exams i'm really tired of education and to be honest i don't think a degree in business or business economics will get me very far to be honest than i would get without uni. Also my top choice uni Nottingham has just turned me down , i guess i don't want to go to uni cos i feel its a waste of 3 years and i really just want to get on with my life , however i guess i'm to afraid to do that cos i'm one of those nervous people who has to feel socially normal at all times and most of my friends are goin to uni and i don't want to be the only one who doesn't go.

I've spoken to teachers about this and they have told me to go on the basis that if i don't have a degree no top company will ever look at me and employ me , so although i don't want to go i don't want to sacrifice the rest of my life cos i decided not to go to uni for 3 years , does that make sense?

In truth i really want to play cricket proffesionly but i'm not really confident enough to do it nor do i feel good enough (again confidence linked to the whole social exceptance thing)

So anyway have no idea what to do, one of my teachers waited till they were 45 to get there degree which i guess is always an option for me

Anyway sorry for the lecture , if anyones read it can anyone give me some advice

thanks and sorry for bringing up this disscussion again

jason

[Lust]

Well, I understand how you feel completely. You DO have options.

Just because you don't want to go to Uni right now, doesn't mean that you can never go. It sounds like you need to take some time to get your head together and think about what you really want. Don't go to Uni just because your friends are. That's for all the wrong reasons. You need to do something because you WANT to.

If you don't go to Uni, then yes, your options are limited to what you can achieve and become. In order to get a good career and good money, you gotta have a good degree. Otherwise your only options will be toy stores, fast food and things of the like. I mean, who wants a career in that?

Personally, if you need to take a couple of years to party, play, fiddle fart around and get it out of your system and do whatever it is you feel like doing before you make up your mind, then do it. Alot of people don't go right away. They would rather wait awhile so they can do things they wouldn't have time for or not be able to do if they commit those years to their education.

Basicly just follow your gut. If you feel now isn't the right time to go, then don't.

As far as your confidence problem........that's something that you need to work on. If you have really good friends or people close to you that can help motivate you that is a plus. Life is about risk and chances. You never know you can do something until you try it. Just because you think you can't do it, doesn't mean you can't.

[I-Primus]

Gaining a Degree isn't the reason, it's the excuse.

It's your life, it's your direction. Only you can be held responsible for the choices you make. (Heavy, I know!)

IMO life gets more complicated as you get older. Life 'can' be relatively simple @ ur age. You would have the perfect opportunity to meet a whole range of new people from different backgrounds with different views of the world & you would have an envied position of not having to to take on the weight of debt that most do.

I was only a few years older than you when I went & now I have done that stage & can get on with other things, struggling to carve a career in my chosen field being one, & I can look @ doing an MA if i like at a later date.

For some it doesn't work, a friend from my 1st year quit in the Summer to do his own thing. He knew during those 9 months that it wasn't for him.

The one piece of advice I would give is do it while ur young. Being with a room full of ppl your own age is great socially.

[Impactor]

i'm gonna repost what i said last time just to save me typing it again

I took a year out before i went to uni because i didnt feel ready for uni when i finished my a-levels.

I kind of fell into the job that i got on my year out but working with the people that i was working with helped me to come out of my shell and when my time was up i felt i was ready for uni so bring it on!!!! i thought.

I went to the University of HULL (wanted the long travel so folks couldnt visit all the time ) and i had a whale of a time ;D yes there was the learning element but the thing i loved about the whole uni thing was the element of looking after yourself and being independant.

After having a bit too much i ended up having to leave uni without finishing (well i could of carried on but i would still probably be there now). Saying that uni got me back into transformers and i have met quite a few people that i would happily call freinds and have been out and met them outside of the message boards.

I am still at the job that i was in before i went to uni just a little older and a lot wiser, i have a better idea of how to handle things and look after myself and also juggle having fun and work. Take that however you want to peeman.

As for going into the line of a salesman for a career peeman here is some advise from a hardened salesman.
Experience speaks more than qualifications.
You need to be able to sell YOURSELF more than the product that you are going to sell (weither its in retail or telesales or face to face sales). If you can show confidence in yourself then your client will be more confident about the product.
NON-retail sales there are greater rewards but there is a LOT of pressure ive been in retail now since 98 and even with what i know of how things work i wouldnt be able to cope with teh pressure.

[Rev. Mirage]

A degree is a good start. However it's not the be all and end all that some (particularly teachers) make out.

If you feel you don't want to go down that route then don't. Take a year out and see what you want to do with the rest of your life.

[Mr Vercetti]

Career-wise- not essential
Personal-growth wise- if you want to go, it will be great. But if you don't want to be there, I don't see how much you'll gain from the experience. Nothing wrong with maybe giving it a try?

[Loosecannon]

For info i went to uni at 22... best thing i did really.

Friends and family both say i changed when i went to uni. I became much more outgoing it did change my personality somewhat.

IP is right about the degree. It is an excuse in a way. Part of uni is the social aspect, its the meeting people and developing. The other part about a degree is that some companies view a degree as proof you can learn and adapt, and that is as important as the actual subject your degree is in.

It will be very hard to saty friends with your friends at uni, i certainly found that when i didnt go, and when i visited them they had changed so much and they seemed to have so much fun you cant help but feel left out.

3 years is not a long time in life... i would say go for it and try it. If its not for you then fair enough, but it is something you could try.

[Omegatron Supreme]

I got an offer today, from London school of Pharmacy. They want 3 Bs. I am happy.