Rodimus
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Post by Rodimus on Aug 22, 2005 10:05:33 GMT
Here's a warning for anyone who's seen the Galaxy Force Cartoon:
DON'T WATCH CYBERTRON!!!!
Firstly it starts at episode er...i think 3 maybe 4, and there is no introduction to the characters, Vector Prime just appears in the story with little or no explanation.
We all know the animation is great but this line will fail commercialy in the same way as Energon....No matter what the toys are like(and we know they are good) the cartoon will not fire the imagination of Kids hence they will not buy the toys.
When are Hasbro gonna realise that if they want the Transformers line to be a success they need to do there own thing when it comes to the cartoon, translating dodgy suedo mystical Jap anime about robots with personality, for the western audience does not work.
Basically i'm now under the impression that the japanese just can't write stories about Robots with real personalities. They always end up writing about little kids who influence the Transformers. This might be fine in Japan but not over here.
p.s. Sorry about the rant
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Post by Transformers At The Moon on Aug 22, 2005 10:17:34 GMT
The writers will write for the target audience they are given and based around the 'series bible' Takara / Hasbro will pass them at the start.
They focus on the kids as that is the audience that the toys are aimed for, its suppose to give it a 'see yourself as X' feel
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Post by Phill on Aug 22, 2005 10:42:57 GMT
Apparently there was some legal issue which meant that the story couldn't start at Episode 1. Suprisingly one cartoon channel in Canada started at Episode 3, and an American station started at Episode 4.
Episode 1 and 2 have had the Voice recordings done, and will appear on DVD as part of the collections.
Hopefully they'll sort it out when it comes to the UK (SHOULD be Toonami) and we'll get it from Episode 1.
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Rodimus
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Post by Rodimus on Aug 22, 2005 10:43:24 GMT
The writers will write for the target audience they are given and based around the 'series bible' Takara / Hasbro will pass them at the start. They focus on the kids as that is the audience that the toys are aimed for, its suppose to give it a 'see yourself as X' feel I know what you mean....I guess i've just realised i've commited the cardinal sin of adult collecting...Thinking that a KIDS cartoon/toy line should be aimed at us 20 somethings. I'd just like to see something like a Justice league style cartoon with Transformers. I actually quite enjoyed the first dozen episodes of Energon (Megatrons raid being my favourite episode)but i hadn't seen Superlink. The problem is i've seen Galaxy Force and that has spoilt my enjoyment of the first couple of episodes of Cybertron. *edit* Phill i got these episodes from a relative in Canada and it does start from episode 3. |
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Post by kittnut on Aug 22, 2005 13:07:12 GMT
recieved an e-mail from my bro at home:
I just saw the trailer for cybetron, date was sept 5th.
Trailer looked cool, none of that cut and paste crap trailers, proper stuff done by toonami.
Before we get carried away, how is the story of cybetron by the way?
-Muz
......looks like we'll find out how bad it is pretty soon.
Sarfraz
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Rodimus
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Post by Rodimus on Aug 22, 2005 13:17:44 GMT
Basically the stories the same as Galaxy Force, just with the first couple of episodes missing.
So when it starts Vector Prime is already around, with no real explanation.
Other characters pop up too, right out of the blue.
I do hope that the first couple of episodes are shown on UK tv.
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Post by bluestreak56 on Aug 22, 2005 13:51:13 GMT
As Ive alreayd stated, this effort is pathetic and I def will not be watching the cybertron equivalent. Just the voice overs themselves were enough to make me want to break something. I will def be watching the rest of galaxy force, but will just have to put up with theose rediculously annoying waste of space and time brats!!
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Post by kittnut on Aug 22, 2005 14:11:42 GMT
So the cartoon is out in about 3 weeks, yet the toys are no where in sight. What part of cartoon=toy commerical=kids buy toys, dont hasbro uk understand.
Oh, I've submitted the air date of cybertron as news on the main site.
Sarfraz
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Post by bigbot on Aug 22, 2005 14:59:11 GMT
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Post by Imperator on Aug 23, 2005 16:12:17 GMT
Saw an ad for the show on Toonami today.
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Post by kittnut on Aug 23, 2005 18:35:51 GMT
Yeah, I finally catched the trailer aswell....looks really good but, oh how we have been fooled before!!!
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Post by bluestreak56 on Aug 23, 2005 19:55:45 GMT
I just want to let everyone know following recent occurences regarding cybertron in europe and also the announcement of the cartoon starting very soon, I yesterday put in a rather long and detailed email to the marketing department at hasbro europe to explain why transfans in the uk are and have been disgusted with the total disrespect they have received with the handling of transformers over the past x years. I am not suggesting I will be able to help resolve any issues this early on, but my view is to first get these peoples attention to the situation and slowly work my way in to try and get some influence on the matter.
I will of course try and keep you all posted with my findings and results.
regards
Bluestreak56
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Post by Imperator on Aug 23, 2005 21:51:44 GMT
Yeah, I finally catched the trailer aswell....looks really good but, oh how we have been fooled before!!! If a snake comes up and offers you an apple, I say go for it. |
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Post by kittnut on Aug 24, 2005 8:48:58 GMT
 good analogue though.....I remember the days when the armada trailer aired and everyone was really looking forward to the show...and lo and behold it was so poor I felt sorry wasting a tape recording the drivel. ...now wheres that snake  Sarfraz |
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Post by Weinrich on Aug 24, 2005 23:34:29 GMT
I enjoyed watching the few eps of cybertron I downloaded, I'm gonna try my best to keep up with the series once it starts airing here. Come on sept 5th.
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good analogue though.....I remember the days when the armada trailer aired and everyone was really looking forward to the show...and lo and behold it was so poor I felt sorry wasting a tape recording the drivel.